In the best of your memory, which word was matched with nice? It's a graphic or an illustrated novel. And not just 'cause he was vain, which everyone agrees he was, but because he loves his country. He works for a general. His health is failing in 1934, he takes a trip to Switzerland to a sanatorium-. But this was a moment in German history, he says, when Jews had a decent amount of freedom. And to this day they have not talked about that day. The whole thing happened serveral years ago. Stanley Milgram had four scripted prods that he wrote out for his experimenters for when the subjects didn't want to continue. That's what we're heading towards. Uh, he's a master plotter. We realize this is hard work, but what you are doing is for the good of Germany. The thing is that I do have a new boyfriend, but my ex boyfriend doesn't know that- that yet, and I'm terrified that he'll do what he says. Uh, so what happened to David that night with his friend got him really curious about murder and badness and all these things we're thinking about. More information about Sloan at www.sloan.org. And he said, "To start, you want to know about bad? And now that we're sort of just on the other side of that. It's 9:24 hours on June 17th, year 2003. You know, what does he say? And he is celebrated for it. Can't keep holding it all in. 35.3M . Only 10% under those circumstances go on. He's a master planner. One that applies smart technologies at scale with purpose and expertise; not just for some, but for all. He says, "Well, we can drive those enemy soldiers out of trenches with gas.". Maria Matasar-Padilla is our managing director. Hi, I'm Robert Krulwich. ", "Set deadly enmity between two friends make poor men's cattle break their necks, set fire on barns and haystacks in the night, and bid the owners quench, you quench with their tears. And he says that's what people wanted. Saying, "You know, the process that I used to make food? In 1962, Stanley Milgram shocked the world with his study on obedience. A given episode might whirl you through science, legal history, and into the home of. Let's just finish this. Then, we reconsider what Stanley Milgram's famous experiment really revealed about human nature (it's both better and worse than we thought). Again, it's a pretty big thing to miss. Visit our website terms of use at www.wnyc.org for further information. You know, just because of a mathematical summing up. And Iago-, He refuses what we fully expect, and what everybody on stage, at that moment, fully expects from him. in what is basically like the Baghdad of his time (laughing). Uh, we ask "Who did you think about killing?" Did members of Haber's family die in the concentration camp? And then, the final one. Yeah, necrophilia. He takes command of them partially, he travels to the front. And he ran them through something like what you and I just did. Necrophilia. After all he knows what he can stand. In fact, his chemist had given this particular pesticide a smell. It's a graphic or an illustrated novel. Is that how you say that thing-. In any case-. And to this day, they have not talked about that day, and he hasn't talked about it with anyone until I interviewed him for the book. And we didn't really come to any kind of agreement with the Haber thing. I'm not going to give you- I'm- I'm not going to help restore the sense that there is a moral order to the world and a moral norm. If it doesn't show that people are just obeying orders-, All right, let's go on to our instructions. He eventually goes to England-. And this is necessary in order to advance our noble cause.". To find page after page of yeses. What makes boys boys and girls girls. In that moment, my father, he stands up and he says-. Now, as we sort of know in life, lots of things that we if they're worthwhile doing, they're not always easy. Thank you to Jim Shapiro, whose most recent book is called Contested Will. Because it takes such energy and pressure to separate it This trivalent bond is so strong that when it comes back together, that energy that's released, it could be used for life or death. Speaking with Carol's mom, Carol's little daughter. Despite the chlorine gas, he didn't intend for that to happen. This episode was produced with help from Carter Hodge. Direct your voice to the microphone in the room. And Hitler takes over. And give up the few details that they really needed to link him certifiably to all his crimes. Scattered One dead dad. I don't think I've ever had a fantasy that- that anatomically specific where I would see the part of the other person that I was going to stab or plan it like that. And if they still were resisting or struggling, they'd get prod number three. As we continue listening to the Bad Show on human nature in our neighbors and ourselves, check out the Wave, which we mirrors the natural shape of your body, or the Casper mattress with zone support for your hips and shoulders for better alignment. But as far as I know, there are none for Radiolab.I think I once read a statement from Jad and/or Robert that they view the show as an audio experience, and so believe it can't be captured in a transcript. And that we're not going to be shocked with anything-. A lot of them were like, "This is not how you fight a war.". Um, "Demand me nothing. Okay? There's lots and lots of lessons here, but one is I think, you know, when you are enjoying to do something for the greater good, maybe ask yourself the question, what is greater and what is good? And then, it was several hours later in the middle of the night that I got the call. Y-P-R-E-S. Actually, the Americans called it Yeeps. And they're both secularized Jews. No. He recruited a bunch of subjects-. Copyright 2019 New York Public Radio. They're engaged with the task. He signs up immediately, sends a letter volunteering for duty-, Saying, "You know the process that I used to make food? Yes 80 percent of the air is nitrogen atoms. What he means is that when nitrogen atoms are just free floating in the air, they will cling to each other. I mean you have to remember, during the Crimean War in the 1850s, Europe starves. As far as I know, I don't know if I did or not. Very distinctive looking man. No motives. It's okay to admit this. "It's okay to admit this, you need to admit this.". Radiolab is supported by Casper. The authoritative record of New York Public Radios programming is the audio record. She had something else on her mind. Some- some people described it as a cloud, and then, others described it as this kind of 15 foot wall kind of hugging the land. Just a little glimmer. Don't- don't the man's health mean anything? Just because of a mathematical summing up. So, there's a way in which it touch a spark of humanity. Yellow mucus was frothing out of their mouths. And so Satan, basically, systematically destroys Job's life. He felt publicly humiliated. Then you left some space at the bottom for them to elaborate if they said, "Yes. Radiolab.org. In- in other words, nitrogen has really strong attachments to itself. Well,the experiment requires that you continue. We begin with a chilling statistic: 91% of men, and 84% of women, have fantasized about killing someone. No. I'm going to take a break. They wanted someone who was really thrillingly bad but, in the end, was redeemed a bit.". But that's not what he found. They've got a- a very plausible, very credible high status scientist at a high status scientific institution. Accuracy and availability may vary. And he finds her actually still alive, with the life about to run out of her. Uh, when- when asked how close she came to killing him, she estimated 60%. Episode Discussion: The Bad Show. Anytime the experimenter said, "You must continue." He gets promoted to the rank of Captain. He says that he's gonna- He's always been hiring people based on how smart they are and not who their grandparents were. That's my thing and that's where I'm going to stand on it. And I designed a little, um, questionnaire where I simply ask the students, you know, "Have you ever thought about killing someone?" How many of them went into that kind of detail? Yeah, I carried your oxygen and you walked beside me through the lobby commenting on the decor. A lot of them are really positive even though they've just been told that they were duped. 1933 comes and Hitler takes over. Radiolab is supported by Audible. Quite literally. So Stanley Milgram actually begins these experiments the same year that Adolf Eichmann goes on trial for Nazi war crimes. And that was a question that had haunted my father for decades. Now that's important. That is true. Then you're kind of done with them. Now what you need to understand about Alex Haslem is that he hates it when interviewers only want to talk about the baseline study. That's what's horrifying about it, but imagine they were administering pain to themselves. And I basically spent the next half hour walking around with him trying to cool him off. Bread from the air was the phrase 'cause Haber had figured out a way to take nitrogen from the air, put it into the barren ground, and grow wheat. We lived together for a couple months, he was very aggressive, he started calling me a whore, and told me he didn't love me anymore, so I broke up with him. Horrified like, "Oh my God, my students are murderers?" It has enough what they used to call then solar energy. James Shapiro, Professor of English at Columbia University. I just needed to kill her." Our staff includes Simon Adler, Maggie Bartholomew, Becca Bressler, Rachael Cusick, David Gebel, Ethel Hepti, Tracy Hunt, Matt Kielty, the lovely Robert Krulwich, Annie McEwen, Latif Nassar, Malissa O'Donnell, Adrian Wack, Pat Walters, and Molly Webster. Shoots herself in the chest. So basically, at 6 p.m. on April 22nd-. ", Meanwhile, later that night on the other side of town-. Uh, it makes up four out of every five or so molecules that we breathe. A lot of people were beginning to worry that with about a billion and a half people in the planet at that point, that maybe we were maxing out. And Satan's like, "Well, I- I bet I can change his mind." The Green River murders terrorized Seattle in the 1980s. He's working with chemicals. Iago. So, let me just get that ov- I mean-, So, again, the baseline study is the one where 65% of the volunteers-. It is, arguably, the most significant scientific breakthrough of them all. Um, although there's some (laughs) [crosstalk 00:02:19]. Just to put that into context and to bring a few other of our storytellers in. He stirs up hatred between friends, between lovers. And you tell us, "Actually, no. On the other hand, if anyone can do it-. We thought that maybe as- as we turn a corner ourselves, we should refresh. The first victims of the Green River killer were found in the summer of 1982. Go. But in experiment number three, if they put the shockee in the same room with the shocker so the shocker could actually see the person as the shockee. You can see this in the surveys that the men filled out after the experiments were over. I-. Is an absolute order. It was- it was a warning smell so that people didn't inadvertently breathe it in and get sick. And she said, "My ex-boyfriend. Tell us anything about [inaudible 00:58:03]-. Give me two more minutes. Well the thing that haunts me about the why question is that I'm reminded of one of the oldest stories in the Bible, which is the story of Job. Now, why don't you just- what do you remember since we last talked in this interview? Check out the Casper or the Wave mattress with a support system that mirrors your body shape. And so I went up to the bedroom to find him and he was in a rage. You know, he does it without humility, without- without a lot of doubt. But he organizes soldiers, he organizes whole gas units. And then he starts this period of roaming. This is Radiolab and today we're talking about Well, we're trying to think about what goes on in the mind of a bad person. [inaudible 00:06:31], Well not horrified, it was I pretty stunned. Today's date Is June 17, 2003. You've touched me. It's the experimenter. It is a fair question to ask what are the conditions under which you or me or any of us could do-. And I devoted one class session to the topic of homicide and why people kill. When you call someone, "Evil." This story made us wonder is David's friend, is he unusual? So there's a way in which there's a touch of spark of humanity. The authoritative record of New York Public Radio's programming is the audio record. Then the executioner castrates you, cuts you open, and takes out your internal organs, and then, separates your head, which is put on a post. I mean, you know, it's just one of those things we've been bringing back shows that we think are just vibrating still in the world. I mean, yes, I did lie about that. He walked out of the room and just started weeping. Enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. So, go to audible.com/radiolab or text Radiolab to 500500 for a free 30 day trial and a few audiobook. So in the end, where do you come down? I'm Robert Krulwich. He was doing his great science work right around the turn of the 20th century; so right around 1900. We'll basically bring it to the front, and when the wind is right, we'll just spray it. David always known this guy to be pretty mild mannered. He even schemes against his own wife. The general's name is Othello. Okay, so what happened to David that night with his friend got him really curious about murder, and badness, and all these things we're thinking about. Yes. He did this experiment a bunch of times in a bunch of different ways. 2012-06-22 . with Lulu Miller, and Latif Nasser. I've just got the, uh, the data from the Milgram. Now, as we sort of know in life, lots of things that we do, if they worthwhile doing, and not always easy. They're trying to be good participants. He said that if I ever had a relationship with another man, he was going to send videos of us having sex to all the people in my university. "From this time forth, I never will speak a word." And it gets even more disturbing for my father as the conversation suddenly pivots to another victim. Fast forward 10 years. Takes command of them partially. And one of the first acts that the Nazis do is to-, That says, "There shall be no Jews in the civil service. Well, let's talk about Fritz Haber. Stanley Milgram took electric shock very seriously. Mm-hmm (affirmative). Was it nice day, nice sky, nice job, or nice chair? And once again, another nitrogen compound. There's- there's a lot of-. It gets bogged down. Yes, I did mean to kill. So you ask like, "Why do people do bad things?". Now there's a footnote to this that is very strange. Radiolab was created by Jad Abumrad and is produced by Soren Wheeler. Fritz Haber's a professor, small university, he's working with chemicals; it's about 1880. And then, he just trails off. And he says, "Can I come over and sleep on your couch? And a mysterious past. He would deny things. But did it, publicly, in front of her friends. And when you stick a seed, like a wheat seed in the ground. You know what's going to happen if she [inaudible 01:02:25]. The good Iago who makes you want to shower the minute you leave the theater 'cause you are sullied by him. With help from Adam Cole, Rachel James, and Matt [Kielty 01:07:25]. In a lab at Yale University with a bunch of regular Americans. And he is basically homeless at this point. He was trying to repeat this master stroke. Why did you inflict on this suffering on them, on us? And not just because he was vain, which everyone agrees he was, but because he loves his country. Let not your sorrows die though I am dead. But that's just a- those are fantasies. Rocket Mortgage by Quicken Loans. Yet you go into this [inaudible 01:02:33] knowing full well that it could end up in her death. The expectation is somebody is made to make his peace with his maker before he dies. Radiolab is produced by Jad Abumrad. Gary is dancing around this topic. Hey, it's Fred Kaufman, I'm calling to read the credits; here we go. The- the last time she- she was in a hurry. Eventually Iago convinces Othello that his wife has been disloyal; which she hasn't. Well he started fuming that his wife had dissed him, and-. And you like her. But he does it with a kind of amoral athleticism, he does it without humility, without a lot of doubt. And is found by her son. So, you don't know. And then he seemed fine. Because this room's echo-y. Like shocking an innocent stranger over and over. And as he was in the kitchen, looking stupid, peeling the carrots to make salad, I came up to him laughingly, gently, so that he wouldn't suspect anything. It was developed in his institute. Sounds insane. I just needed to kill because of that. TRANSCRIPTS We are working to provide transcripts for as much of our programming as we can over. And then, in experiment number four, when the teacher has to hold the learner's hand down-. Although, clearly, on some level they know it isn't. That's my opinion that's where I'm going to stand on it. That allows an individual to act inhumanely? So my father and the other interviewer in that room that morning, Detective John [Matsen 00:58:19], they start using a line, a tact of interviewing that was very. The subjects range in occupation from corporation presidents, to Good Humor men, and plumbers. Let me just get that out. What follows is this ongoing conversation between Job and his friends about why does this happen? The good Iagos make you want to shower the minute you leave the theater. Within minutes the gas reached the Allied side. in this episode we begin with a chilling statistic: 91% of men, and 84% of women, have fantasized about killing someone. I do not stand alone. There's a lot of black and white thinking happening right now. radiolab-archive. But if you think that's the right thing. Do we know? No, because if you couldn't afford a ticket for a play, you'd seen all the plays, in the 1500s, you could always go to a public hanging. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. No. These violent delights tienen fin violento. That's Fritz Haber's wife. Imagine they really were had to administer shocks to themselves or something. Was it nice day? There are hints of reasons. He'll be our guide for the segment. This is basically what Stanley Milgram set out to test. Bald on top. even past when they were screaming in pain. Then a few months later, he started calling me, trying to get back together, but I didn't want to. I think what it's doing is, uh, if you breathe it in, it sort of irritates your lungs to the extent that they sort of fills up with fluid so quickly that you sort of drown in your own phlegm. So around the turn of the century for German scientists like Haber, this was the challenge. But what if something's happened to the man. Thanks to all our great storytellers, Dan Charles, Sam Kean, Latif Nassar, Fred Kaufman, and Fritz Stern. Under extreme, extreme pressure at high temperature, and then he forces hydrogen into the tank. It makes up four out of every five or so molecules that we breathe, so it's very-. Only then does God speak up and kind of say, like, "You're gonna question me?" You know, he takes over leadership in this institution in Berlin and he starts hobnobbing with a whole different level of society. Just trying to imagine that. You're telling us all this. Bonobos. Well, I mean, I know that sir, but I mean, he's up to a 195 volts. ", Now, Haber was Jewish, but because he'd served in World War I-, But 75 percent of the people who worked for him at the institute, they were Jewish-, And says, "This is intolerable. It's absolutely essential. He had snapped. Walk- walk away. Radiolab is supported in part by the Alfred P Sloan Foundation enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. ", "We'll basically bring it to the front and when the- when the wind is right, we'll just spray it.". Hey wait! Also from Breslau. What does it actually mean to be bad anyways? In graphic detail. But as the play goes on, you begin to think that maybe that's just another lie. Robert Krulwich: Uh, wait. It's about how far would these people go. You're not the first one. But if you put two experimenters in the room, and-. And that tonnages then moves into our food source, our food source then moves into our bodies, and the rough statistics are that half of each of our bodies contains nitrogen from the Haber process. Go to audible.com/radiolab or text Radiolab to 500500 for a free 30-day trial and a free audiobook. I really want to do a good job.". I'm really proud of Job, he believes in me, and he trusts me in so much, and he has such great faith in me. This is how it describes what it does: 'Radiolab believes your ears are a portal to another world. [inaudible 00:59:42] Christensen. Push button, get mortgage. When we asked how close she came to killing him, she estimated 60 percent. We encounter a man who scrambles our notions of good and evil, turn to one of the most famous (and misunderstood) psychology experiments ever, talk to a man who chased one of the most prolific . And in experiment number four, when the teacher has to hold the learner's hand down-, If the experimenter is not a scientist, but is an ordinary man-. I'll give you bad. Robert, I'm going to give you this piece of paper here. For much the same reasons. The fourth product is-. In fact, we hate being told, but we will do it on our own if we think it's good. That's one of the things we have to know and that's why it's okay to let out. Investigating a strange world. The thing is that I do have a new boyfriend, but my ex-boyfriend doesn't know that yet, and I'm terrified that he'll do what he says. Wow. It immediately became apparent that there was going to be difficulties. Birds would just fall from the air. Meaning to life to reveal itself in a way that restores order and gives us hope that all of this isn't just meaningless chaos. You're going to keep giving him what, 450 volts every shot now? Yeah let's . And- and Iago? His wife, um, went into hiding. Like, you can't throw that air onto a plant (laughing). He says that he's always been hiring people based on how smart they are, and not who their grandparents were. He eventually goes to England. So, I broke up with him. We, as- as onlookers to this study, we have this kind of god-like, uh, sort of vision of, like, well of course what they're doing is wrong. Said, "Deadly enmity between two friends make poor men's cattle break their necks, set fire on barns, and haystacks in the night, and bid the owners quench them with their tears. What did you remember since we last talked [inaudible 00:57:19]? Radiolab is supported by Audible. And so in 1918, Fritz Haber gets the Nobel Prize. What's interesting is that how all of these struggles, all of them, play out the same way. The reason why he's telling all this stuff is because he has cut a deal. And I heard about him from science writer, Sam Kean. And it's moving at about one meter per second. Right, Clara comes from the same town, and they're both secularized Jews. The Bad Show. Haber starts thinking, "In order to do this we need to pressure this, we need to put it under a lot of pressure.". This is a 20 year old female. What makes a bad person so bad that he's different from the rest of us? Yes, and he did too. And I just sat at my desk and started reading these. Milgram staged the whole thing like it was some experiment about memory and punishment, but of course it wasn't about that. Nobody had done what she was about to do on the scale that he was about to do it. And then, he seemed fine when I said goodbye to him. The son eventually after he immigrates to America kills himself. So you see it's just in that one experiment that 65 percent of people are willing to go all the way. Is an absolute order. Jeff Jensen's book is the Green River Killer: A True Detective Story. No reason. He had women participants. And not to everybody's taste. Then suddenly the thought occurred to me that my life would be much happier without him in existence.". And so, I ex- expanded the sample where we asked about 5000 people. And they go, "Why?" A hero. But- but there's part of me that says, you know, here's a guy who just wanted to do everything better than had ever been done before. In front of this really impressive looking machine. This was one of the bloodiest arenas on the, uh, Western front. And to make the problems even more annoying. She expressed disapproval about his clothing choices. I can't quite place him. Whether the learner likes it or not, we must-, What's interesting is that how all of these struggles, all of them-, Play out the same way. Hi, I'm Robert Krulwich. I was just astonished. I- I- I- well (laughs). Then the executioner castrates you, cuts you open, and takes out your internal organs, and then separate your head; which is put on a post. She was good to- she was good to me. comment. You're bad. Let's expect more from technology, let's put smart to work, visit ibm.com/smart to learn more. One of the reasons it grows is because it's sucking up all the nitrogen in the soil. Right. Just to back up for one second. He won't answer. And so I expanded the sample where we asked about 5,000 people-. ", He actually threw a dinner party in celebration-. Radiolab is on a curiosity bender. You know, solar energy from the sun to grow crops. [inaudible 00:59:10] I went back one time before and [inaudible 00:59:13] that I Like I said, I got to give it out, can't keep holding it in. Ear drums, God. But in all of these other scenarios, they don't. That's Stanley Milgram talking about the experiment in a film in case you've never heard of this. And he spends five years and a futile effort-, Sounds insane. These little nitrogen atoms will fiercely hold together and it's almost impossible to pry them apart. That's correct. We don't exactly know why. All right, just to back up for one second. Who's going to do this powerful piece of science. If this is the singular moment in Shakespeare where he gives you un-understandably evil man. We, as onlookers to this study, we have this kind of godlike sort of vision of like, "Well, of course, what they're doing is wrong." And then, Othello goes and kills his own wife, smothering her with a pillow. And when you stick a seed like weed seed in the ground-. Mm-hmm (affirmative). To feed about 30 million people. You can see this in the surveys that the men filled out after the experiments were over. Like, how do you tell the real baddies from the rest of us? They're trying to do the right thing. She was one of the first women to earn a PhD in her country. No. It's very important because if you ask university undergraduates what does the Milgram study show, they will invariably say something like "They show that people obey orders" okay? He was in this, um, uh, uh, state of fury, he said, and, um, and instead of hitting his wife, he smashed his fist into the bathroom mirror. He walked out of the room, and just started weeping. All right. The Bad Show Listen Transcript Image credits: Adam Cole Cruelty, violence, badness. So, here's the interesting thing. But the generals were not all that convinced. Would change where the shocker and the shock-ee sat. Said, "Yes, I've thought about killing someone?". Fact is if you don't continue, uh, we're going to discontinue the experiment. Is that like a green cloud? They're trying to do the right thing. Take one. So, you see, it's just in that one experiment that 65% of people are willing to go all the way. Want to talk about bad people in Shakespeare. Live shows were first offered in 2008. That's radio producer Ben Walker, he'll be our guide for this segment. "Research in any field is a must, particularly in this day and age. 2K views almost 2 years ago 48:23 Love it or hate it, the freedom to say obnoxious and subversive things is the quintessence of what makes America America. It has enough, what they used to call then solar energy. Time's up. Yeah, me too. In Seattle today a man called the Green River killer-. He believes in me and he trusts me and so much. According to James, he is not the baddest-. No one has a monopoly on bad. I mean it's a fact, of course, that they're administering pain to a stranger, that's what's horrifying about it, but imagine they were administering pain to themselves. That's one of the things we have to know, and that's why it's okay to let it out. [crosstalk 00:17:42], It's the experimenter-. We ask deep questions and use investigative journalism to get the answers. I'm almost done, guys. Radiolab: Lucy. 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