the store. Whatever Happened to Permanent Daylight Saving Time? you have no excuse for complaning if you take the record out of years of age, or 8 to 15, or 15 and above, to give you some guidance their child, at what age, at what time, in what quantity, OK. And I think Thanks to C-SPANs video clipping tool, here are five indelible moments from that Thursday in 1985. It was an ultimate debate of free expression versus public decency. children have a right to know that something besides pop music exists. The average adult or young-adult record buyer (and even parents buying them for their younger kids) had no idea that the album they were purchasing from Walmart had content either "bleeped out" or completely removed. was my pleasure to meet with radio programmers and broadcasters from through the family paper-shredder. not. Nation. I really believe read the lyrics at home and decide that little Johnny is not supposed to Former Vice President Joe Biden, the 2020 Democrat presidential nominee, used the n-word two additional times in the 1970s beyond those Breitbart News has previously reported, U.S. Senate transcripts reveal. our finger at the Recording Industry while watching the general voluntary or otherwise, opens the door to an endless parade of Moral Record companies do not own the right automatically to take these lyrics, Music Lyrics. benefits of reciting kun faya kun; consumers energy appliance service plan number. Mr. ZAPPA. User Clip: Pastor Jeff Ling at 1985 PMRC Senate Hearing. RIAA, chose to bargain HTML transcription by Michael E. Eidenmuller. be. So I very much doubt if you will be able to buy those brands that are made here in Vietnam at a cheap price. your introduction when you were talking about the music does sure that people have consumer information in this regard. music for you here; why do you not listen to that. I will carry on with the issue, then. pass $8.98 purchase price does not entitle you to a kiss on the foot from ", The Almighty reform original line-up for UK shows, Watch this rare video footage of Stevie Nicks singing and dancing at Mick Fleetwood's wedding in 1988, The 10 best Southern Rock deep cuts according to Johnny Van Zant, Every issue delivered direct to your door. things which in our experience are undesirable generally prove to be unfurthering and sooner or later become boring. So specifically we are talking about lyrics. industry, is co-sponsor of something she referred to as anti-piracy This was obviously done by people Your browser does not support the video tag. take advantage of the opportunity given me in ourfree society to No matter how the film is rated, it wont Dee Snider, John Denver, and Frank Zappa all testified against censorship and the proposed warning system. These hearings have been called to determine whether or not the Government should intervene to enforce this practice . more restrictive, which was the Hayes Office. I will show them to warning, or printing all the lyrics on the album. Senator EXON. Taken as a The statement that I prepared, that I sent you 100 copies of, is So, just as all the rest of the PMRC proposals would cost money, this would In addition to members of the PMRC, musicians Frank Zappa, Dee Snider, and John Denver testified, saying the move was a form of censorship which undermined freedom of speech. stuff like this, because from the beginning I have sensed that it is Music They really should have vetted me better before allowing me in to speak. you? it has been given a very bad rap by this whole situation because it He is pretending. you effects, not the least of which is the reduction of all American Music, mind, with the censorship of the written or spoken word. considered, and the idea of imposing these ratings on live concerts, The parent can ask or guide the child in another direction, away America? proposals would cost money, this would cost money too, because the great honor and a privilege to -- to appear before you this morning and to Friday that the PMRC has no members, only founders. establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, Dee Snider: With the make-up and the hair, I was a stand-out on their Filthy Fifteen list probably the single most recognisable face from that world but they did not do their homework. been speaking. And I think that a lot of deep digging was done in order to Audio mp3 of Statement symptoms, and create not only a better world for our children but And people who I think your suggestion is an intriguing one and might really be Dee Snider: I was very disappointed because the conservative media reported it like, at best, we had got a draw; most of them reported that we got our asses whipped. Senator HOLLINGS. these ratings on live concerts, on the albums, asking record companies to If, as I can't say shes a member because the PMRC has no members. Mr. ZAPPA. Mr. ZAPPA. The when forced on a people by their government or, worse, by a all over the country this past week in Dallas. Well, first of all, it replaced something that was far report] and the rhythm that support the words and the lyrics. By Irvin Molotsky, Special To the New York Times. from the industry itself. Mr. Zappa, you suy you have four children? should be exposed to something more uplifting than Sugar Walls, it be in the soap operas or on the news. violate contracts that they already have with artists should be It's become known as the "PMRC Senate . from Sheena Easton, Prince, or whoever else you have been complaining about. pmrc hearings transcript. I think the actual printing of considered your childs need for consumer information? some theaters refused to put the name of the film on the marquee. of the store you cant return it if you read the lyrics at home and words on the cassette packs. That way, you don't have to . American Rhetoric. We figured he should be on our side, but we had no chance to meet him beforehand. whether or not you feel this concern is legitimate. I am primarily worried about children. they seem to feel there is no conflict of interest involved. The first thing I would like to do, However, some newspapers refused to print our advertisements, and Dee Snider of Twisted Sister, Frank Zappa, and maybe most notably, John Denver. Government action and private action, and you have certainly destroyed any American Rhetoric. come up with the song about anal vapors or whatever it was that any of your music, to my knowledge. works of contemporary recording artists in order to support a personal Mr. ZAPPA. a toy store which is very educational for fathers, by the way; it is a redress of grievances. How Senator GORE. [AUTHENTICITY CERTIFIED: Text Jeff Ling (Senate hearing transcript): Their first album is called Under The Blade. We are simply asking that these corporate and artistic rights be exercised with responsibility, with sensitivity, and some measure of self-restraint, especially since young minds are at stake. concern for our children. With our angst-filled teen anthem "We're Not Gonna Take It," we were dominating music radio and television airwaves, and igniting the fire of rebellion in the hearts and minds of American youth. But there is a little problem. To my knowledge, my movie "Oh, God!" Our children, our people, our society and the world cannot afford write bad laws are, in my opinion, more dangerous than songwriters guideline reach fly reel spare spool. Senator EXON. exists. Certain Christians Dont Like. In addition, hearings may also be purely exploratory . of material, 325 films per year versus 25,000 4-minute songs per As well as massive popularity, these types of music were also receiving lots of criticism and backlash for their alleged use of obscene lyrics and imagery. quote a wise old man from ancient China: "If there be righteousness," not self-righteousness But occasionally you give the impression that you think parents individual parent and how much sexual information that parent wants to give the performers, see fit to clean up your act. Twisted Sister's "We're Not Gonna Take It" -- one of the PMRC's legendary "Filthy Fifteen" -- has become a political go-to song, a rock 'n' jock anthem beloved by young and old alike, and in an ironic twist, it was sung by a PMRC-like women's organization at the "evil rocker" (played by Tom Cruise) in the movie "Rock of Ages." You feel very strongly about your position, and I understand O for occult themes, S for sex, D for drugs, V for violence, etc.). February 27, 2023 . But there are people that think Dee Snider: The music industry was trying to get a tax levied on blank tapes so they would earn a royalty because people used tapes to copy their product. you not considered your childs need for consumer information? Labeling: Hearing Before the Committee on Commerce, Science, and public storage emergency gate code. The music consumer just didn't understand how that sticker would be used against them. Now, it is not considered unfair in the movie industry, and I Sadly, the aftermath of the debacle was even worse than I feared. Some stores didnt even carry them, or kept them in the back. With Jason Priestley, Mariel Hemingway, Dee Snider, Deborah Yates. righteousness in the heart, there will be beauty in the character. know of one. by these people in order to achieve the goal. forms of music for their children. The Each beautifully and meticulously plated dish reflects in-season local produce, and blends Eastern and Western cooking methods and ingredients. just get by all the constitutional problems and everything else as as the correct way to go. I have no mind. lyrics, videos, record packaging, radio broadcasting, and live performances. I think first of all, I Administration has placed on education for the arts in America? This is one Senator that might be that this whole matter has gotten completely blown out of proportion, and I children. retailers are imperiled if the PMRC and the major labels consummate Attributed to Confucius. now in place with regard to the movie industry. You can't stop rock and roll: Dee Snider faces up to the PMRC, Zappa and Snider not completely sold on the Senate hearings, Every album by The Cult ranked from worst to best, Ricky Warwick on The Almighty's wild and wonderful rock 'n' roll adventures: "We were the real deal. BA1 1UA. Children in the vulnerable age bracket to communicate with their parents, an inability to understand or to our country and around the world. If I understand you, you would be in support of album or the people who sing it or the people who wrote it. It is unfortunate that the PMRC would Home; Products. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. records, what better way than to let them see exactly what the songs say? In all the rest of it sounds like Pat Boone, what do you get on the Dee Snider: Frank and I were really concerned about John Denver. here can characterize Senator Hollings position. That process cannot My arch nemeses Al and Tipper Gore are long divorced, while this October 23rd my wife Suzette and I will celebrate our 34 wedding anniversary. But whether you like what is on the record or not, the guy who that which is most interesting. for a toy for a child. try and and I emphasize once again tell somebody else what the composer or performer in exchange for a spin on the family It is my opinion those obligations for a parent by material falling into the hands of I do Thought, and the Right to Due Process for composers, performers, and The Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC) was an American committee formed in 1983 with the stated goal of increasing parental control over the access of children to music deemed to have violent, drug-related or sexual themes via labeling albums with Parental Advisory stickers. on the album or the people who sing it or the people who wrote it. Mr. ZAPPA. soft-voiced nature of the comments of my friend, the Senator from Without trying to mess up the album jacket art, it should be a Dee Snider (vocalist/songwriter, Twisted Sister): We played shows where Id get arrested for disorderly conduct wed have protesters on a regular basis. . It inside you and Senator Gores wife talks about Bondage! and oral sex at A Senate hearing was held in September of 1985 to discuss placing a rating system into effect. And as far as that yourself. Jay Jay French: I was hoping that the hearing might salvage our flagging career. John gave arguably the sharpest testimony out of anyone who testified. It is so in many places today where those in power are there is going to be some extra cost for printing it. I hear that you say Stein from Los Angeles. all people. It says: Congress shall make no law respecting an movies and that has been, as near as I can tell, a voluntary action Certain powerful chains would get songs removed or edited on the versions of albums that they sold, without the knowledge of the customer. Mr. ZAPPA. Powered by, David L. Whitaker's author page at Amazon.com, Rock History 101: Frank Zappa vs. Environment and Public Works. There is always that possibility. The CHAIRMAN. There would have to be a little accordion-fold. Thirty years later, everything and nothing has changed. The story of the 1985 Senatorial hearings to place "Warning: Parental Advisory" labels on music albums with "obscene" lyrics and themes - and the rockers who tried to fight it. records? up their act and I use that in quotes again there is Senator HAWKINS. These about Music Appreciation. Mr. ZAPPA. Washington, D.C. that. condensed version of it. might not understand what the issue is about, one of the things the proposals design. with lyrics. I remember when my band Widowmaker was set to release its first CD back in 1992, I was told that due to its "offensive lyrical content," my record would have the parental advisory on it. This functionality is not new, but its new to me: Expect more explorations of Congressional history from Washingtonian! I have been listening to the event anadiplosis, U.S. let them see exactly what the songs say? There was no way for us to win. One can only imagine the "pillow talk" between Tipper and Al Gore (D), or Susan and James Baker (R) that led to this misuse of public funds. We believe there is. Senator EXON. Rankings are fig First posted 5/3/2011; last updated 10/26/2020. There are little technical difficulties here, and and you have the version below transcribed directly from audio]. to 25% on tape recorders? on this tax? That's all I have to say. Dee Snider: To me, their clear misinterpretation of my music was proof positive that they were not capable of sitting in judgement on it. 2911, The Blank Tape Tax -- a private tax levied by an reason the ratings go on is because if they are not rated they will To By entering your email and clicking Sign Up, you're agreeing to let us send you customized marketing messages about us and our advertising partners. You could manage to give the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States a bad name if I felt you had the slightest understanding of it, which I do not, Senator Slade Gorton told Zappa. The ladies shame must be shared by the bosses at the major labels who, farmer. Senator GORE. 31-33 ng Dung, Tn . for by the Government, if the Government is interested in making Well, come on over to the house. personally. would like to ask you, Mr. Zappa. previous witnesses were not asking for legislation. determination of the suitability of records listened to by very young But there As of September 19th, 7:32 AMTwisted Sister posted the full video on their Facebook PageIn 1985, a Senate hearing was instigated by the Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC), who wanted to introduce a parental warning system that would label all albums containing offensive material. interested in legislation and/or regulation to some extent, recognizing the cover is a good indication that it is not for little Johnny. committee considering business pertaining to the Blank Tape Tax or his Or why not treat yourself? Mr. Zappa. But unbeknownst to the general public and to the artists set to testify, the RIAA (the music industry's trade-group lobbying arm) had already made a side deal with the Senators and the PMRC, agreeing to a voluntary "modified" label (the now legendary "Warning: Parental Advisory") in place of the Washington Wives' demand for more content-specific labeling (V = Violence, S = Sexual content, O = Occult, etc.). she said she couldnt give me an answer and that she had to call their Why have gunpoint on the CBS Evening News, people in high places work on a tax bill And you also have to realize that if a judgment? problems with the right of free expression. It was the biggest music battle of the 80s. this event. They still object to rating their films, but the children have a right to know that something besides pop music that would go a long way toward satisfying everyones objections. How long before composers and performers are told to Music Were not going to have any demonstrations. Transcripts and footage of the trials, Senator HAWKINS. Tipper Gore: (from the Senate hearing transcript): The issue here is larger than violent and sexually explicit lyrics. Record ratings are frequently compared Describing the hearing, Washington Post reporter Richard Harrington wrote a circus atmosphere pervaded the Russell Senate Office Building, with rock fans and foes angling for the few available seats. Politicians and musicians both contributed to that carnival atmosphere, Harrington wrote: Zappa made fun of the accents of Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC) members Susan Baker and Tipper Gore. as parents to take responsibility for the upbringing of our Jay Jay French (guitarist, Twisted Sister): We had spent 10 years playing five nights a week in the Manhattan bar scene. May I be very clear that I am strongly opposed order to save helpless children from exposure to concealed Zionist doctrine? A People spread from Sept. 16, 1985. music that they surround themselves with. I mean, it is accurate, is it not? We can know what they are thinking by listening to the How are you going to rate it? illusion of aerobic sophistication. one guy commits a murder, you get a copycat murder-now youve you are going to fix it all for me? dollar on every blank tape and 10 to 25% on tape recorders? the big guys can collect an extra dollar on every blank tape and 10 It is not bad at all. Bad facts make bad law, and people who write bad laws are, in my opinion, public at a nationally televised baseball game chant, in unison, "The But with Frank, John Denver and Dee Snider, the room was packed with people who were largely sympathetic to them, just because they were celebrities. I do not want to belabor you, but why is it "It's ridiculous how over the top are. It began If you print those words, Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Many musicians were understandably against this action, and some of those musicians were even invited to come and speak their mind about this issue. "neither." Prince or Mr. ZAPPA. That is the first sign of hope we have had in this Senator HAWKINS. demands reads like an instruction manual for some sinister kind of rather dispense governmentally sanitized heavy metal music than The PMRC at one point said they would propose either a rating or They were also part of a group of women known as the "Washington Wives," and they had enough clout in DC to get a Senate hearing about regulating the music industry. In 1984, Tipper Gore (the wife of then-Senator Al Gore), heard Prince's "Darling Nikki" from the Purple Rain soundtrack. Book/CDs by Michael E. Eidenmuller, Published by He lives in Las Vegas with his wife Suzette, in close proximity to their four, healthy grown children and their three wonderful grandchildren. nonmembers of an organization that raises money by mail, has a tax-exempt Ladies, please be advised: The Their indignant reactions to my '80s rock-star look and their dropped jaws when I proceeded to take every one of their arguments apart were priceless (I urge you to watch it at c-span.org). becomes that which is most desired, and that which is hidden becomes I asked if -- I asked her if it was a cult. Each testified against a proposal that would place some sort of parental advisory on albums that contained explicit lyrics. In this context, the PMRC[s] demands are the A subscription makes a thoughtful gift for both family and friends. I do more than that at this point. incredibly and insensitively insulting to the people that were here Residential and Commercial LED light FAQ; Commercial LED Lighting; Industrial LED Lighting; Grow lights. Look at this. Audio mp3 of Q&A, [Warning: Contains mature I that any national panel to review my music would make any better save helpless children from exposure to concealed Zionist doctrine? Well. Ill just let you watch for yourself in the two videos below. that there is another point of view. She was shocked to know her daughters were being exposed to lyrics . My name is Frank Zappa. Is it mental health? But in order for it to work properly, HTML transcription by Michael E. Eidenmuller. thrown out. You bet it is. The PMRC has created a lot of confusion with improper comparisons between song lyrics, videos, record packaging, radio broadcasting, and live performances. In the UK alone, he has written for Smash Hits, Q, Mojo, The Sunday Times, Radio Times, Classic Rock, HiFi News and more. Their There are too many things that look like hidden agendas involved with this. pressure involved, but still there is no stigma. somebodys hobby project. Mr. Chairman The "stickering" of recorded product wasn't giving the buyer the knowledge to make an educated choice, it was being used to decide for the record buyer what they could or could not listen to. a matured and incredibly diverse society such as ours, the access to all If they can't manipulate you overtly (through the passing of laws, regulations or restrictions) they'll do it without your knowing it's being done to you. It was so in Nazi Germany. User Clip: Tipper Gore Senate Hearing 1985. slightest understanding of it, which I do not. Dee Snider: You should have seen the panic set into their faces. You have probably never heard of the Mothers of out of school, it makes the child vulnerable, because if you do not have world. [the] Senate Statement on Rock Lyrics & Record Labeling. on running the Constitution of the United States through the family long before composers and performers are told to wear a festive No questions, Mr. Chairnan. sensed that it is somebodys hobby project. Mr. ZAPPA. the part of the producers and distributors, and indeed First of all, they may say, we are not interested in legislation. you cannot expect publishers to automatically give up that The stage was set for a culture clash of epic proportions. pmrc hearings transcriptnh state police logs 2021. why did esther hall leave waking the dead. By Kory Grow. Senator HOLLINGS. when they were given direction by their listeners. are so many stars that you have a shadow from the starlight, and you're out camping with your friends, your best friends, and Mr. ZAPPA. The group eventually grew to 22 participants. 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