T#: 2691305 | Part#: B2358417. Now, there is good news. Even then, its not truly needed. F series. However, time will tell just how bad the valves look around the 100,000+ mile mark. N series. The B58 has 24 valves. Refurbished. As with the N55, the B58 engine uses a single twin-scroll turbocharger. Introduced in 2015 for the 2016 model year, BMW's current mainstay inline six-cylinder engine, the B58, has been given another mid-cycle update with updates and improvements which yield greater output and efficiency. All the B58 problems just don't seem commonly talked about. Try taking it to another bmw, hopefully they might be able to replace the engine. You can likely stretch that further. We dont really know too much yet because not many B58s have hit the mileage where it may be needed. Time will tell how often its necessary on the B58. Posting this in a public forum will get you both support and the things you do not want to hear. The situation of No.3 and No.4 is slightly worse, but cylinders No.2 and No.5 dont have either fuel or air. The B58 uses a single twin-scroll turbo. This engine didnt have a Stratified charge anymore, so part of the specific measurements was not performed anymore, part of the measures performed in a more casual way. iTrader: Quote: . No engine is perfect and no engine is exempt from potential problems. Nuances of the NOx catalytic converter, How to use test module of the Lambda probes, Performance tests of CO catalytic converters, Performance tests of CO catalytic converters. Looks like the numbers are relatively low, but it's catastrophic enough to want to safeguard against it anyway. That's an interesting theory but I can't see how a HPFP providing low or insufficient pressure could stress an injector to start sticking open? N43/N53 E and F series. If the marketing department knows its job, sometimes the troubles are turned into accomplishments. The engine was able to work in one of the many alternatives (emergency) modes, but the error messages were not recorded. Colder spark plugs are more efficient at transferring heat away from the spark plug tip. This leaned out the motor and ringland piston #1 shattered and melted. This of course restricts airflow into the engine. N43/N53. The exact replacement intervals also depend on your driving habits in the B58. I am looking for any documented cases I can provide as evidence . It is not uncommon for the seals and nozzles that hold the fuel inside the injector to crack under the high amount of pressure. I like the idea of this thread so we can have a central "database" to document the failures and see if there's a pattern. Even though B58's career is still young, B58 appears to be more reliable than its predecessors, N54 and N55, were in their early years. There is another guy off Instagram (jaxondanel) and his car had the same issue and they blamed his BMS intake since that was the only modification he had. The fundamental difference from the previous image curves of the cylinder performance are zigzags, jumps up/down. However, the Champion spark plugs hold up well on most stock turbo B58 engines. Bmw says there is damage to the cylinder 4. That won't work. Again, the B58 seems to be highly reliable in its early days. Many B58 owners are experiencing low coolant in the main tank. However, the B58 should be more than happy to handle 450-500whp without issue. Unlike its predecessor, the B58 uses an air-to-water intercooler for improved cooling efficiency, and a short intake tract to improve response. Am I going to dig it up, nope, but feel free to use the search button. Any help guys ? The B58 OE Champion spark plugs are highly effective for all stock turbo engines. Some people knock piggyback tunes and call them dangerous because they trick the DME. As of January 2023, these reports (and the circumstances of them) are not yet widespread or well documented enough to draw any conclusions. Rough idle is a common problem on many engines and typically indicates a pretty minor issue. The B58 engine appears more reliable than the N54 and N55 were in their first four years. Outside of that, engine problems are still rather unknown and uncommon. Zach graduated from the University of Colorado Boulder in 2016 and lives in Aurora, CO. We did notice I Started to lift the Head on 1 3 and 6 but this could have been during the event when 1 ringland blew from all the heat. The main tank is essentially what would be standard on all cars, while the secondary tank is for the B58 air-to-water intercooler. Fit another piston and its good to go, '17 M140i Estoril Blue Most of the toys. Link be be great, any of you guys experience vibration at cold start ? Good question, and there is no perfect answer. Then the rod eye is cracked in two which ensures a precise fit. We wrote a short post about the max boost here. If its not the coil pack and spark plugs what could it be? It provides better fulfillment of cylinders with the fuel. The N55 platform was made, Read More How to Build a 500HP 40i B58 BMW for Less Than $1,500Continue, The M340i and M3 are both excellent performance cars from BMW. Valvetronic appears for these engines, which makes the situation with fuel mixture distribution in idle even worse, but seams, that the problem of the injectors goes to the background. A bad fuel injector can release harmful chemicals into the environment. No scoring problems on my tracked car. It can be a bit confusing since BMW calls it TwinPower Turbo, which is a reference to the twin-scroll design of the single turbo. ~500-525wtq. Dont overlook this basic maintenance item on the B58. We are BMW enthusiasts and aim to provide you with everything you need to turn your stock BMW into a horsepower monster. No possible repair only complete 40k engine replacement . Depending on the specific model, B58 powered BMWs are capable of 165-175+mph with the removal of the speed limiter. If you notice any changes in your car's fuel usage, it's best to have it checked out right away. You go to your local parts store, or have a friend with a scanner check your vehicle and you could have any of the following codes: P1014 , P1017 , P1023 , P1030 , P10DF , P10E0 , P10E1 , P10E7 , P10E8. Quantity. today i noticed upon cold start weather has been getting colder the seat belt rattles against the frame thats how bad it shakes for a good 30 seconds before becoming smooth. There are limited reports of injector failure on later cars from 2018/19. Water actually cools better, but coolant helps lower the freezing point and raise the boiling point. B48/B58. Youre not going to blow the motor up if you make it to that mark. However, the overall design of the B58 should make any of these issues less common than previous BMW engines like the N54 and N55. I see people chanting B58 over N54 but i don't see the hype. If detonation occurs, your BMW's engine may fail immediately. Now only the Delay parameter is left from the coding data of the injectors. Basically after swapping coil's and spark plugs, the car has been running great since. Part 2, Importance of the service procedures. Probably. Genuine BMW fuel injector for B58 engines. Potential Problems for B58 Engines. Typical situation in case of damage of the NOx sensor, Intake manifold. Again, water is actually more effective at cooling. Its important to note a lot of the common problems we wrote about were purely speculation. Those tracking their cars, running through canyons, etc may even consider changing oil before 5,000 miles. I'm not sure how the dealers feel about spacers . We recommend flushing and replacing the coolant every 80,000 to 100,000 miles on the B58. Some B58 owners even opt to run 0W-40 or 5W-40. Obviously, cylinders No.1 and No.6 have the best supply of air and fuel. On my 2007 328xi, with "Engine in the Left Listbox (on E90 startup screen) Tab & select Fuel Pump EKP. Rough run. That's surely pretty concerning stats for the average B58 owner, no? Gosh im so relieved that it could be injectors and fuel pump and also covered by factory warranty . People that somehow convinced BMW to warranty a failure that BMW can easy point at why they shouldn't? In my opinion, cylinder scoring is bad air intake or an oil problem. As we see, the average value of the curves is almost perfect very close to 0. However, we think its a bit too long between oil changes. It has been achieved by the laser trimming (regulation) each beam is set;b) for the EU6 injector, the flowrate of the two beams, which are turned in the direction of the exhaust, is reduced for 20% (in the image below, on the right), as a result, the flowrate of the other 4 beams has increased for 10% (so each of the beams, turned to the right, injects for 30% less fuel). We dont really love that idea. This means each cylinder uses 2 exhaust and 2 intake valves for a total of 24 valves. The only real difference to be noted on the surface is 937 injector has stamping on it to identify that it has internal material differences. Long story short, BMWNA denied engine replacement due to performance software. Hey! Now becoming a common cause of poor running on these engines. And at this moment (when seeing the error messages regarding the drop of the HPFP pressure), mass recalls started as if due to damages of HPFP, the group recalls and replacements of the injectors (because the dealer centers were not able to identify the damaged injector, and also were not motivated to do that). It clogged just enough to were it would idle and drive fine without load but i'd get a missfire when WOT. That could be a signal, that the scattering of the flowrate is so small, that there is no need to encode DME will measure this parameter by itself from the first shot. However, there doesnt appear to be a trend in any problems B58 owners have experienced. Will report back with results That should do it. Part 1. Uneven running. This also caused multiple other cylinders to misfire. Don't think it stayed open sowhat happened there ? There has been many cases with this issue bone stock and tuned. It manages a respectable 322-382hp and 332-369 lb-ft from the factory. To become a vendor visit: https://bit.ly/ss-vendor-apply. Problems of air-tightness, Idle. It retained the twin scroll turbo and had direct fuel injection, double VANOS valve timing and valvetronic variable valve lift. This is the exact same as the N54 and N55 engines. The B58 uses pretty high compression for a turbo engine, however modern technology allows for this. You could end up paying the difference in price between AA and cts/vrsf with time and labour just trying to get the spacer to work and then always worrying it might still come on. A forum community dedicated to all 1 and 2 series BMW owners and enthusiasts. Refurbished. Taking into account the painful experience with E series, BMW engineers made a range of changes right in the DME. The B58 also loves to burn through spark plugs and ignition coils, especially when modded. Our garage currently includes a 2008 135i, 2007 335i, and 2008 535i. Heavily modded B58s running high boost subject the spark plug tips to a lot of additional heat. Part 2, Importance of the service procedures. Its tough to say. Its also not terribly expensive, especially for the DIY crowd. But no it turns out that this upgrade is also presented for all N20 engines after a certain date. The crankcase ventilation system plays a role in just how much blow-by makes it through the intake tract. Rep. 447. However, there are many other excellent brands of engine oil for the B58. 2 and No.5 is the smallest.Why does such a situation form? Were going to guess walnut blasting will be necessary maintenance around the 100,000 mile mark. I noticed the vibration in the cold months. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. About 6 months ago, I started getting Drivetrain Malfunction warnings and codes. Dealers attempt to sketch you for EUR 6000? Chill out. Throttle and accelerator pedal. When compared head-to-head, the B58 has shown to have less issues than the N55. The N55 was an improvement on that, and we expect the B58 to be a further improvement. I'd look there first. The B46 4-cylinder is pretty simple with only minor updates. The B58 is part of BMW's new modular engine family, each engine using a displacement of 500 cc (30.5 cu in) per cylinder, following the B38 and B48 engine.. However, the JB4 can be stacked with a flash tune, known as a back-end flash. Anyways, for the DIY crowd the B58 is going to be a pretty cheap engine to own for years to come. The B58 crankshaft is made of forged steel. Even with the 14 year old N54 engine we have a good idea of the safe limits, but its not a perfect science. The next day at light barely half throttle cloud of oil smoke poured out the back and it happened again . So time to test the fuel pump. N53. B38 / B48 / B58 Fuel Injector Puller Remover. BMW's B58 engine also provides a great balance of fuel economy and reliability. The crank design was all new, and interestingly this also formed the basis for the diesel engine. Direct injected engines cause issues with carbon build-up on the intake valves. Are there any ways to see the health status of the NOx system?, B58. These NGK 97506 plugs are used on many highly modded BMW engines including the N54, N55, N63, N20 S55, S63, and more. The BMW B58 engine is a turbo 3.0L inline-6 that was first introduced to BMW models in 2016. Its a lot of torque for a factory single turbo bolted to a 3.0L inline 6. Find out more about the B58 injector issues in this video!Check out our range here: https://williamsperformance.co.uk/Please SUBSCRIBE!#BMW #M140 #engine . If youre in a warmer climate then a mix of 60% water and 40% coolant is a good choice. Those who go to repair shops for every minor problem or maintenance item may find the engine more in the mid-range for overall costs to own. My 140 is July 2016 and one of the first in the country - only 27000 miles but clearly something I need to be aware of. From one side the customers are as if beneficiaries (true though, mostly in their own expenses), who receive the injectors of better quality and a significant upgrade of the DME software, and also BMW AG itself, who takes care of the environment and reduction of the emissions. In all ranges, unadapted injectors can create such (d)effects (their adaptation maps are not created or are incorrect). Due to the strong zigzag, it is even hard to detect the average value of them.Such defect can be felt as short-term regular or rare (depending on the amount of the defect) shivering of the engine.Cause of the defect misfires or unregular bad fuel burning. 1) B58 Engine Problems - B58 Coolant Loss. Unsurprisingly, the success, Read More BMW N54 vs. N55 vs. B58 vs. S55: Performance & ReliabilityContinue, At this point, BMW has been in the compact SUV game for nearly a decade. Check out our B58 downpipe guide for more info. Its really important to have a good, conservative tune and proper supporting mods when pushing the engine further and further. That plug definitely does not look good. Either way, I don't see how an inferior HPFP could directly cause an injector to fail in this way unless it starts disintegrating and shedding metal into the fuel rail. Or if using something thicker than 0w20 has something to do with it?? e81 130i lhd europe hpas 2007. LL01 approved oils will also work well on the B58. Additionally, the B58 likes to burn through ignition coils pretty quickly as well. . Typically, FBO on the B58 refers to a tune, intake, and downpipe. 71. This may cause misfires or engine knocks. Miscellaneous issues are scattered here and there. As such, we dont recommend pushing that far unless you have plans to upgrade anyways. The B58 holds 6.9 quarts (~6.5L) of engine oil. Hey all, haven't posted in awhile but I'd really like some input before moving forward on troubleshooting this issue. At this moment, piezo injectors appeared in the BMW petrol engine. F10/11. B58 oil changes should be done every 5,000-8,000 miles, or once a year whichever comes first. The N55 only requires walnut blasting every 80,000ish miles. Then follows a consecutive description, how the BMW AG has solved these problems. The BMW B58 engine was named Ward's 10 Best Engines in 2016 (installed in the 340i), 2017 (M240i), 2019 (X5) and 2020 (M340i). So far, the B58 won four Wards 10 Best Engine awards. BMW introduced the B-series of modular engines in 2016. N53. The BMW B58 entered production in 2015. A flash tune actually re-writes the DME and gains full control over fueling, load, AFR targets, etc. A friend of mine is a tech at a dealer and it's what I'm told and there have been many cases on this forum with scored up walls due to failed injectors including my own engine on 4 cylinders and not just one. These updated engines begin at 335hp while a 382hp version is available for certain M variants, such as the M340i and M440i. Smooth run. Part 2. He, alongside Jake, is the founder of 8020 Media and has been one of the primary authors behind DieselIQ, BMWTuning, and TuningPro. Dinantronics Elite | BMS intake | Dinan springs and swaybars, BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST, B58 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications, https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/at4&d=1565745080. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. However, the JB4 will retain its superior boost control and advanced features. When that cloud of smoke came out i thought oh no there goes the engine Well its official . Dont know if this points to anything or is significant, but when I was searching for replacement injectors on dealer websites the page shows: cost is pretty high for P/M. The N54 takes the cake in regards to horsepower capabilities, but it had many engine problems as a result. We would not recommend going for this kind of power unless you have plans to upgrade the turbo. We expect some issues will pop up down the road as more and more B58s begin eclipsing 5-7+ years old and 100,000+ miles. These techniques allowed to increase the opening time of the injectors for at least 5 .. 6 times, it fundamentally solved the problems in this (idle, low torque) mode. Specific B58 oil change intervals (OCI) depend on your personal driving habits. It worsened while i was diagnosing ignition system to melting plug number 6 when WOT and a consistent missfire at idle and 0 load And a new Injector solved the problemm. 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I will start the review with the first menu: analysis of Rough run data. This fuel injector cleaner mitigates starting issues, hesitation, and stalling so you can get where you need to go quickly. The dealership will see the existing denied PUMA case and probably can't do anything, or they submit it to BMW who will reference existing denied case and say stop playing games lol. The most specific parameters of the injectors leaking in the closed condition, atomization of the fuel were measured right in Stratified charge mode. Its also doing so with greater overall reliability. I'm not sure if these changes in the B58TU have anything to do with this. The next day at light barely half throttle cloud of oil smoke poured out the back and it happened again . A safe purchase? Ultimately, BMW recommends oil changes every 10,000 miles. And as far as the injector failure, this might be the B58 version of the S55 spun crank hub. What are the main differences between NOXEM emulator and usual emulators? Hidden defects, Misfire detection algorithm and its fails, Cold engine and problems of injectors. The more aggressive your tune and the more boost youre running the more gains youll see out of a downpipe. How long an engine will last is always a tough topic. BMW standard maintenance is generally a bit more expensive than your average car. A Stratified charge doesnt reduce fuel consumption? You can say we are somewhat N54 fanatics. We recommend a 50/50 mix of water and coolant for the B58. Sounds good. 1 and No.6 is the largest;b. Stratified charge: disabled. Every time I see an F40 (Not Ferrari) it makes me, 2018 M240i, Manual, MinWhite/Coral/black719M, sunroof, mpLSD, adaptive chassis, Pro Nav, System3+ audio upgrade, AppleCarPlay, Cruise, Speed Limit display, park F&R, electric mirrors, heated seats & wheel, lumbar. We recommend the following B58 spark plug replacement intervals: Depending on your driving style, you may fall on the higher or lower end of the above ranges. BMW 520d 2.0 Diesel Engine. Posts. B58 Racing, LLC -Based out of Dallas, TX -. Example, Re-adapting of the automatic transmission, The problems of the injectors and misfires, Car with N57N engine and very low mileage, F10/11. New. Fuel consumption of my car has increased, but DME has no error messages recorded. Obviously, these upgrades were not yet introduced at that time! Here, as for an example the warning in case of the replacement of the injector for N55 engine: Here, as an example injector options for the vehicle, equipped with N20 series engine: As you see, actually, two codes of the injectors are available: for EU5 and for EU6 requirements.Both codes as active are also marked in BMW AG databases.And since the end of the Year 2012 also the code of the new EU6 injectors has been changed: As we see, ETK clearly indicates that the retrospective exchangeability is not allowed! We recommend opting for an open intake like the BMS option. F10/11. . Injectors from a dealer. Use tab to navigate through the menu items. One of the main reasons these chargepipes failed is that they were made out of plastic. Baum Tools. Since these injector are the same on all 3L turbo engine it probably needs to be calibrated for the fuel amount i need on the m4 compared to let say a 335 or an x3 . This time - regarding data, available in the ISTA/Expert mode. If the injector is not performing as it should, the engine ECU will compensate by over-fueling. 2016 340i | M-Sport | Mineral Grey | Coral Red | Bone Stock. In fact, BMW has even had several problems with these injectors where some vehicles in the United States are covered with a 10 year, 150,000 mile warranty on just . You must log in or register to reply here. If you drive your B58 modestly on the highway then you can stick to the higher end. 2012-2015 BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum. Typical situation in case of damage of the NOx sensor, Intake manifold. engine failure and limp mode . Rough run. Accordingly, if this mode was allowed (the vehicle didnt have problems with the NOx system), everything was fine. RK Autowerks B58 Port Injection Kit - B58 Gen 2. Of course, the new M-engine S58 . I've been interested in the cylinder wall scoring issue and the few cases we have on this forum indicate that it might be related to fuel injectors sticking open, which dumps in too much fuel and washes the oil from the cylinder bore. 11.0:1. Where could be the problem? Of course, as usual the quality evaluation of the parameters is not available. Problems of air-tightness, Idle. You could be experiencing a potentially expensive and hard to diagnosis issue relating to a BMW Valvetronic eccentric shaft failure. 5. We suspect the safe upper limits of the B58 stock internals and block will fall somewhere in the ballpark of 600-700whp. What would I do, if I had the engine, equipped with these injectors?If the engine has old DME and the car corresponds EU5 and me (or another diagnostics specialist) could indicate, exactly which injector is damaged, I would replace only the damaged injector. The labor work costs 50$ to 150$, depending on the workshop. Some let go at 500whp while others hold up for years at 700whp. BMW part number: 13538625396. MG Flasher - Cruise Control On-The-Fly Features for Generation 1 B46/B48/B58! This is an increase over the 10.2:1 compression shared between the N54 and N55. Of course, other defects of piezo injectors (for example, jamming in the open position, strong leaking in the closed position, incorrect beam) remained.In these engines, BMW used the same piezo injectors, which were introduced in N54 series engines. ~480-500whp. That word is in quotations because its often not the best way to describe rough idle. Notes. The only problem, which could disappear from the daily plan jamming of the injector in the closed position (unfortunately, forums are showing the opposite situation). Look for things like cooling system problems and gasket oil leaks. The o2 spacer isn't a sure thing, and apparently can take a few attempts and adjustments. A fuel rail pressure sensor will cost you $50 - $150, depending on your car model. 340i and 440i models received the 320hp variant with 332 lb/ft of torque. The recommended oil weight from BMW is 0W-20. Stratified charge performance check. Also curious what made you go PI meth over PI e85? Yes. Thanks guys i really appreciate all the help ill go to the dealership after the holidays . Changed all spark plugs and coil pack changed oil too . Issues such as HPFP and fuel-injector failures were no problems yet for B58s but let us assess some common ones: Coolant Loss The reason of not using piezo injector is due to the high sulfur content in US market's gasoline, which makes implementing the "lean burn" feature impossible. Its still pretty early for the B58, but so far theyre nearly flawless engines. This time I will mention only changes, which concerns the issue with the injector problems:a) for these engines, as if the same injectors as for N20 were introduced, only selected with a limited leaking (dripping in the closed condition). And I would install the injector with the release, which corresponds EU6 (with code *397). Expect about 20-21psi to be a safe limit for the stock turbo. Individual adaptations of injectors. Some B58s may even run up to 70-80% water for track duty. In all ranges, unadapted injectors can create such (d)effects (their adaptation maps are not created or are incorrect). A PUMA case was most likely opened for engine failure (these are rare). We broke down the rough engine maintenance costs above. Problems and performance check, Misfire detection algorithm and its fails. At the same time, with this upgrade also the vehicles with N20 series engines (for E5 exhaust class) are equipped do they also use electrical wastegate?Unexpected kindness from the manufacturer. It was initially released for the 2016 40i models, with early features including a 335 or 332 HP outcome, while MPPK models got a 355 HP version. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Point is, standard maintenance isnt cheap. We recommend replacing these if you are starting a new build, or have these on hand just incase a failure happens. Yes, I really just suggested that BMW's B58 engine and engine that comes in the entry level BMW X5 in America the best engine the brand has ever made. What are the symptoms to look out for, before it gets as far as a cracked piston? 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