Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 13, 2011: Thanks for the comment, ritamarie. HOWEVERand this is where I have to now state after research of many heaters, this Gen4 costs .25 an hour to heat. I purchased a gen4 2 months ago and could not find I was saving any money since Im all electric.I have notified the co I want to return the heater for a refund and they keep giving me the run around about sending me an RMA and the prepaid UPS slip to ship the unit back to them.after reading some of the other complaints I'm wandering if I will ever get a slip. If you buy one of the cheapies to make do, your dollars are going out the window. The customer service for these things is terrible, they leave you waiting on line for long periods listen to a recording telling you over and over you will wait less than a minute. He was telling the UPS lady that he could never contact anyone at the company and what a piece of overpriced junk it was. No complaints at all. Also Bob Villa states Zone heating (room or smaller area) not the whole house. So I am not really surprised. Paying almost $400.00 an Edenpure with needing bulbs every two years, these are no longer a savings, Biotech Research lends their name Edenpure out to all these little retailers who soak you on the price of the heating bulbs. I've been in the HVAC field for 40 years. of insurance. i have one, and believe me it has paid for itself, i have hot water heat powered by natural gas. I have three EdenPure heaters that work wonderfully! It will cost more. Another way to do this is to just turn down your thermostat. This heater will warm almost my entire upstairs, 1250 sq ft. Today, I had my central heat heat on 64 to try to save $$$ on my electricity. I feel perfectly safe with the EdenPure and I probably would with the DuraFlame. Thanks to all of your warnings I will now seek out a nice space heater for around $50 or so and continue to heat my home the same way I have been, just keeping the space heater handy for when I want a little extra heat on colder days. The key is that the Eden Pure is meant for a certain zone of from 300 - 1000 sq feet depending on the unit you select. E.g. The newer model 1000XL is still$59.00. I am glad i took the time to read it and all the interesting and informative comments. Look at fuel price comparisons, you'll see that electric heat is by far the most expensive. I have used these and recommended (I'm an electrician/contractor) the inexpensive ones to people who have cold spots in their larger rooms (rec rooms, basement, master bedroom) with good results, but if you think a 1500 watt 5000 BTU electric heater will keep any 1000 either square foot or cubic foot space a comfortable 70 degrees, you're dreaming, especially if the temp is below 40 degrees. I know others you spoke with like theirs, but it would be helpful to all readers to hear your experience. The EdenPURE performer the same as my $50 Lasko electric heater. He's doing this because he thinks its a good product and it is if used in the right situation. You are dead wrong pilgrim. I also agree with your opinion on products sold by celebrities. I would not recommend this product to anyone who is trying to save money while trying to stay warm. Especially true if the ductwork is uninsulated or leaks air. Common sense. 2023 The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. The first heater I got didn't run long before one of the elements went out. Gas burners are a hazard in a barn with hay even if only in a side utility room. It has exactly the same power of 1000 to 2000 Watts as everything else including EdenPure. Don't buy Edenpure heater they are scammer. I'm going to have to take back part of the comment about space heaters. I have a utility room in my barn that requires an electric heater. You are not saving money because the Eden Pure heater is an amazingly efficient heat source, it is because you are not heating the whole house to as high of a temperature. Still use the Edin pure in our basement vs, electric baseboard and it works fine. There not trying to rip you off or scam you. Here's examples of how those would work: 1) Say your furnace has a vent that blows all of the warm air straight outside every time the furnace kicks on giving no warmth to the house. We have the 1000, and the 1000XL, the are the first ones. The laws of physics, which can't be changed, say they'll both do the same thing. So, that means 50,000 in insurance is going to cost that senior 500. a month. Standing by it, it doesn't really seem like it is doing much work, but, judging from our reduced power bills, it is doing exactly what these units are claimed to do. I don't know about most of you, but in the coldest 3 months of the year here, my bill runs over $500. Otherwise, save yourself about $400 and pick one up from Lowe's. Leverage your professional network, and get hired. After reading all the comments, there is no way that I will save any money with this EdenPure Heater and will not order this. I've purchased similar heaters at Home Depot, in recent years, for about &10.00. ritamarie , you're wrong on so many levels. Even your oil or gas-fired furnace does not reduce oxygen because the combustion gasses that go up the chimney are replaced by air infiltration. My heat gun is about 5 times hotter than my wife's hairdryer. Now, if that is not a scam, a come on, a lead in, I don't know what it. I'll definitely buy another. Since electric space heaters convert almost all the electricity into heat, they are all equally efficient. You don't need an EdenPURE product to close vents around your home, not in use. They are PAID to endorse these products. Ive been heating the entire house with 3 Edenpure heaters (only turn on one downstairs when Im there). I will not call this a scam. The EdenPURE heater is several times as expensive as other infrared electric heaters. if you live in california, with the EDEN pURE ,PGAETOLD ME THAT IT CAN COST YOU AS HIGH AS 50 CENTS AN HOUR TO RUN IT.my bill is usually 200 in the wintertime,for one month my electricity bill shot up to$360 and i had a saving of $28,gas. Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. Edenpure heaters are CRAP. 1500 watts of electric heat will cost you the same in a $20.00 heater, or a ripoff $400.00 one. So, I turned on the EdenPure, had it on high, which I didn't need to do, and my upstairs is varying from a toasty 70 degrees to 67 at the farthest areas from the EdenPure. Why do you think they would do that? I just read Steve's reply and had he spelled better I might have give it more creditability. They said they could not do a refund because it was past the 60 days and I said I thought the 60 day thing was for the smart people that decided they didn't want it, not for a DEFECTIVE product of which I have received 2 in a row.Anyway they refused to refund my money so I guess I'm just stuck with this piece of junk. Call your agent or insurance company if you have any questions. Someone should be going after SCI for false advertising at a minimum. Underdogs: Directed by Doug Dearth. This can be an effective do-it-yourself project, just be careful doing so, or get someone experienced to help you. Some Of there customers are saving and are willing to talk about it. Well, I was under the impression that maybe EdenPure discovered a way to make heat from electricity in a more efficient way than your basic $40 electric space heater. 2) Say you live in a 11,000 sq. They make you confused with names, like US 1000, GEN 4 1000, GEN 3 1000. Also the actual cost for Endenpure gen 4 is $397 (2010 cost) refurbished 374.00 so there are models that are returned for a savings $23.00. The EdenPURE portable electric heater is a scam by my count. I ordered my heater on the 14th of Dec. and was told that it would not take more than 14 days (what a joke)I started calling around the first of January and I could not get anyone on the phone. They are perfect for sleeping. Most heat guns even have a little twist flap on the back which does this to the heat gun so you can adjust the heat output it has nothing but coving up the airflow to adjust temp. About 8 years ago, I got an estimate for ZONE HEATING for my home including the garage. I bought Edenpure heater in December 2010 and my january heating bill doubled, and what they sent to me is not what I ordered from them. This scam reminds me of Obama: you can pretty much lie and say anything you want for a long time and get away with it ! This listing includes patent applications that are pending as well as patents that have already been granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). They were not meant to be used in that manner. has anyone else had this problem and if so can you advise me? Doubled Electric bill, no effect on gas consuption. Whether you like the article or not - the simple fact is any cost savings you are seeing by using an Eden Pure heater is due to the use of "zone heating" I.e. I am on a fixed income and can't afford to pay almost the same amount I paid for it to ship it back. Conclusion: Bill Burkett acted within his rights and duties as an employee of John Handon. Bought one of the USA made heaters last year and found the heater to be less effective than any of the other electric heaters I have used in the past. Their flagship product, the EdenPURE infrared heater, was first launched in 2007. Is anyone anymore really honest? Save 80 percent off EdenPUREs cost by using a competitors brand. Unfortunately, the Eden Pure ad does not lie. Also, dont buy Cub Cadet. I have two Eden Pures in my home and they really work. Of course, it seems that would use more electricity, but some of you just don't read the material correctly or don't read it at all. My heating bill was $30 month versus $90 in kersosene and the side effects it left.I had to install a heavier wire to carry the amp's but it worked when I needed a heavier heater(1000)I think oil companies will do anything to keep you hooked,my dad(81)spent $800 for a couple months,got a few heaters and saved a bundle. Both the gen 4 and the personal. I'm sure it puts out heat. rooms for rent in. Plugged it in and it ran for about 3 minutes and died. VERY EXPENSIVE, but interestly enough my sisters was higher and she has a smaller home and a heat pump. Services may be provided by Western Union Financial Services, Inc. NMLS# 906983 and/or Western Union International Services, LLC NMLS# 906985, which are licensed as Money Transmitters by the New York State Department of Financial Services. Yes but they are ugly units and they both worked. Therefore, a 10' x 10' room with a 10' foot ceiling is 100 square feet, but 1000 cubic feet. When I was 1st introduced to the Edin Pure, price of heating fuel was sky high. Answer: A radiant barrier is a thin reflective fabric. The filter is as overpriced and useless as the heater. Issues of safety, durability, and return on investment must be considered before purchasing one of the most expensive portable infrared heaters on the market. My electric bill actually increased. Bill Burkett lives in Boerne, TX; previous cities include Helotes TX and San Antonio TX. Besides I came to the conclusion that you really don't save anything with them anyway. What a fiasco-I will never purchase anything from Edenpure or anything associated with Bob Villa. Ads for EdenPURE portable infrared heaters promise energy savings of up to 50 percent. I'll bet they had a forced-air heat pump. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on October 31, 2011: John, it should remind you of every politician. zp. I live on a mountain in Colorado. Talk about a rip off. Thanks for the good info that saved me. The heat output from an electric heater goes directly into the room, without being lost to the leaky ductwork, that may be part of the reason that people observe that the electric heaters (edenPure or otherwise) appear to "solve their heating problems" !! Had I done that, I believe, without using a calculator, that cost would be $180.00 a month for just the heat on one floor of my home. ", They would be dedicated to making sure the expectations of an ongoing pleasant experience that is designed into the commercial would be realized to the end of product life. Some people still can't get it. If you read it carefully, it never really claims that the Eden Pure heater is a miraculous heat source. Want a great laugh? The story is that Jones' furnace went off in his big drafty farm house. ft house that you keep at 70 degrees during the winter. I use two in my basement that have been working constant for three years (except for the summer months) and still work fine. I called customer service and they sent me a prepaid shipping label to return it and they sent me another one. My electric bill sky rocketed, can't think of anything positive where Edenpure heaters are concerned. Bob Vila gave two types of scenarios. Buyer beware ! A FEW YEARS AGO A CITY ELECTRIC INSPECTER TOLD ME SOMETHING THAT REALLY WORKS. dont buy one these heaters mine was wsed for fore mounths and now it quit wrote them they said the tubes are 36.00 plus 6.95 shipping. The metal shell of a mobile home is excellent for transferring heat: summer heat outside gets in easily and in the winter inside warmth convects to the outdoors with ease. Square feet is the area of floor space, cubic feet is the amount of air in a room. I have a Master of Science degree in Electrical Engineering, so I can tell you with precision that EdenPure's claims are false and misleading. I will check the duct for cracks and insulation and if I want to get cheaper, I'll look into the Sun. I tune mine up every year with the drop of oil and a little compressed air. Sorry about the math confusion, but I really did mean cubic feet, not square feet. when you look at the other sales websites they state in stock but edenpures states out of stock so they have to make it to sell it. I own a 500 and a 1000,I have breathing problems,used kerosene heaters and about died,plus it cost me $90 or more to warm and leave my house and clothes reeking of kerosene oil!I used the 500 watt in fairly cold weather. The problem lays, as always, in Sales and Marketing (or Greed and Misleading), that makes EdenPure a hype from the cost vs.value point of view. Of course, I was always skeptical, since their full page ads with lots and lots of "information" never mentions the heat output of the unit nor how much electricity it consumes. It costs me about $9.00 per day to heat my house with Propane. U CANT HEAT HOT WATER DUH! However, the radiant barrier can't be sandwiched between two objects as the contact point transfers heat away quite nicely. I told her that I wanted my order cancelled and it was I hope. But, although our gas savings decreased our electric usage went up and we noticed about a $4 a month savings. What a bunch of scam artists. So does anything else that uses 1500W of electricity, such as a $15 bathroom heater or a 1500W blow hair dryer. ft. I would not with a $20-$40 heater from one of the big box stores. Keep up the good work EdenPURE! PERIOD. Emmy Award-winning American news personality Ken Rosato Ken is best known for his work in WABC-TV's morning newscasts. They don't claim it will save you money. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on December 27, 2011: Let us know how the EdenPURE works for you, the man. . I'm absolutely thrilled with my unit. I have read some very interesting posts on this website and one thing I can tell you is, you can spot the smart persons from the not so smart persons. A big amen to all you have posted. The group was formed in 1958 at the old Turtle Creek High School, calling. Also in the month I ran the Edenpure unit I saw an increase of about 8% on my electric bill versus the radiator unit. It claims 1000 s f for the gen 4 and it will do that just as well as most heaters. Look at your furnace's btu rating. Within a month the heating capacity was diminished 50 %. That is the real savings. My wife and I have found that our electric and gas power bills have gone down by more than half, each (we have a gas furnace) since we started using our Life Smart brand infrared heater. dont buy this heater,if you live in California. where is the savings plus spending $900.00 on the units. I purchased several other type of quartz heaters for back up heating source. The number one reason not to buy a Bio Tech Research Eden Pure is people just like you and me on this site have given specific factual examples being abused after the sale by things which should have been disclosed before the sale. And the glaring discrepancy between SCI's unsubstantiated bulb life claims and what consumers are reporting about the actual bulb life with the Edenpure products shows that SCI's claims have no basis in fact. 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