I have a lot of poems that basically are that. And that there was this break when we moved from pictographic language, which is characters which directly refer to the things spoken, and when we moved to the phonetic alphabet. And then it hits you or something you, like you touch a doorknob, and it reminds you of your mothers doorknob. In between my tasks, I find a dead fledgling, I dont even mourn him, just all matter-of-, fact-like take the trowel, plant the limp body, thing, forever close-eyed, under a green plant, in the ground, under the feast up above. Every week, the show hosts thoughtful . I chose a couple of poems that you wrote again that kind of speak to this. Wisdom Practices and Digital Retreats (Coming in 2023). Come back, Her six books of poetry include, most recently, won the National Book Critics Circle Award for Poetry, and her book. So in The Carrying, there are these two poems on facing pages, that both have fire in the title. We are fluent in the story of our time marked by catastrophe and dysfunction. We can forget this. Two entirely different brains. The fear response, the stress response, it had so many other kinds of ripple effects that were so perplexing. Because I was teaching on Zoom, and I was just a face, and I found myself being very comfortable with just being a face, and with just being a head. Only my head is for you. You said a minute ago that the poetry has breath built into it, and you said also that, you have said: its meant to make us breathe. Our closing music was composed by Gautam Srikishan. During her 20-plus years as host of public radio's "On Being" show which aired on some 400 stations across the country Krista Tippett and her beautifully varied slate of guests . I almost think that this poem could be used as a meditation. The poets brain is always like that, but theres a little I was just doing the wash, and I was like, Casual, warm, and normal. And I was like, Ooh, I could really go for that.. Enough of osseous and chickadee and sunflower. is so bright and determined like a flame, A student of change and of how groups change together. But each of us has callings, not merely to be professionals, but to be friends, neighbors, colleagues, family, citizens, lovers of the world. In fact, my mother is and was an atheist. The science of awe. And then Ill say this, that the Library of Congress, theyre amazing, and the Librarian of Congress, Dr. Carla Hayden, had me read this poem, so. And I think most poets are drawn to that because it feels like what were always trying to do is say something that cant always entirely be said, even in the poem, even in the completed poem. Its still the elements. We were brought together in a collaboration between Northrop at the University of Minnesota and Milkweed Editions. a breaking open, a breaking It was interesting to me to realize how people turned to you in pandemic because of who you are, it sounds like. So Sundays were a different kind of practice, if you will, a different kind of observation. Theres daytime silent when I stare, and nighttime silent when I do things. Tippett: [laughs] Yeah. Limn: Yeah, I think theres so much value in grief. s wisdom and her poetry a refreshing, full-body experience of how this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being human at all times, but especially now. What happens after we die? And she says, Well, you die, and you get to be part of the Earth, and you get to be part of what happens next. And it was just a very sort of matter-of-fact way of looking at the world. Tippett: So the poem you wrote, Joint Custody. You get asked to read it. I have people who ask me, How do you write poems? And you talk about process. Shes written, Science polishes the gift of seeing, Indigenous traditions work with gifts of listening and language. An expert in moss a bryologist she describes mosses as the coral reefs of the forest. Robin Wall Kimmerer opens a sense of wonder and humility for the intelligence in all kinds of life we are used to naming and imagining as inanimate. Tippett: I chose a couple of poems that you wrote again that kind of speak to this. Theres whole books about how to breathe. The Pause is our Saturday morning ritual of a newsletter. It was interesting to me to realize how people turned to you in pandemic because of who you are, it sounds like. Yeah. A scholar of belonging. A scholar of magic. She grew up loving science fiction, and thought wed be driving flying cars by now; and yet, has found in speculative fiction the transformative force of vision and imagination that might in fact save us. Supporting organizations and initiatives that uphold a sacred relationship with life on Earth. Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. Or theres just something happens and you get all of a sudden for it to come flooding back. This means that I am in a reciprocal relationship with the natural world, not that it is my job to be the poet that goes and says, Tree, I will describe it to you.. Just uncertainty is so hard on our bodies. And whats good for my body and my mental health. All of those things. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and the Art of Living by Krista Tippe at the best online prices at eBay! Limn: Oh, definitely. Dont get me wrong, I do, like the flag, how it undulates in the wind. Centuries of pleasure before us and after. and desperate, enough of the brutal and the border, enough of can you see me, can you hear me, enough. No, question marks. [2] Her guests include the 14th Dalai Lama, Maya Angelou, Mohammed Fairouz, Desmond Tutu, Thich Nhat Hanh, Rosanne Cash, Wangari Maathai, Yo-Yo Ma, Paulo Coehlo . Im really glad youre enjoying it because theres many more decades. [Music: Seven League Boots by Zo Keating]. I feel like I could hear that response, right? Krista Tippett; Filtrer Krista Tippett Voir les critres de classement. enough of the will to go on and not go on or how is a murderous light, so strong. And I hope, I dont think anybody here will mind. Yeah. could save the hireling and the slave? [Music: Molerider by Blue Dot Sessions]. nest rigged high in the maple. I feel like theres a level in which it offers us a place to be that feels closer to who we are, because there is always that interesting moment where someone asks you who you are, even just the simple question of, How are you? If we really took a minute to think about it, How am I? Or theres just something happens and you get all of a sudden for it to come flooding back. for the water to stop shivering out of the On Being with Krista Tippett December 6, 2016. Right. We are in the final weeks as On Being evolves to its next chapter in a world that is evolving, each of us changed in myriad ways weve only begun to process and fathom. Yeah. We endeavor to make goodness and complexity riveting. And this, it turns out, is also a primary source of his tethering in values. And they would say, I dont want to go to yoga. And I was like, Why? And they said, I just dont want anyone telling me when to breathe. [laughter] But its true. When I lived in New York City, my two best friends, I would always try to get them to go to yoga with me. I feel like that between space, that liminal space, is a place where we were living for so long, and many of us still living in that between space of, How do I go into the world safely, and how do I move through the world with safety and care-take myself and care-take others. Yeah. And that was in shorter supply than one would think. Tippett: You hosted this, The Slowdown podcast, this great poetry podcast for a while and. We literally. Poems all come to me differently. Yeah. No shoes and a glossy Yeah. I wrote it and then I immediately sent it to an editor whos a friend of mine and said, I dont know if you want this. And it was up the next day on the website. Now, somethings, breaking always on the skyline, falling over. Thats page 95. has an unsung third stanza, something brutal Limn: Yeah. I think there were these moments that that quietness, that aloneness, that solitude, that as hard as they were, I think hopefully weve learned some lessons from that. Want to Read. So I want to do two more, also from The Carrying. I really love . And for us, it was Sundays. With an unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief this conversation holds not only what we have traversed these last years, but how we live forward. 4.07 avg rating 5,187 ratings published 2016 20 editions. Thats page 95. And just as there are callings for a life, there are callings for our time. And it is definitely wine country and all of the things that go along with that. And Im sure it does for many of you, where you start to think about a phrase or a word comes to you and youre like, Is that a word? Youre like, With. When you find a song or you find something and you think, This. Limn: Yes. Its the . Few books have been more eagerly passed from hand to hand with delight in these last years than Robin Wall Kimmerers Braiding Sweetgrass. Yeah. Precisely at a moment like this, of vast aching open questions and very few answers we can agree on, our questions themselves become powerful tools for living and growing. Yeah, it was completely unnatural. As we turn the corner from pandemic, although we will not completely turn the corner, I just wanted to read something you wrote on Twitter, which was hilarious. So it was always this level in which what was being created and made as he was in my life was always musical. Do you remember the Colbert Report when Stephen Colbert was doing the earlier show, and he had this one skit where he said, I love breathing, I could do it all day long. [laughter] And I always think about that because of course, its so ironic that we have to think about our breath. But in reality its home to so many different kind of wildlife. But the song didnt mean anything, just a call, to the field, something to get through before, the pummeling of youth. And I always thought it was just because I had to work. And if youd like to know more, we suggest you start with our Foundations for Being Alive Now. And even as it relieves us of the need to sum everything up. Tippett: Were back at the natural world of metaphors and belonging. Our closing music was composed by Gautam Srikishan. I dont expect you to have the page number memorized. The term "compassion" -- typically reserved for the saintly or the sappy -- has fallen out of touch with reality. And then what we find in the second poem is a kind of evolution. If you are here, you are likely already part of this. Then three years later, Tippett left American Public Media to create her own production company, Krista Tippett Public Productions, which has aligned with WNYC/New York Public Radio to distribute the show to affiliates nationwide. of dust and I wish to reclaim the rising. And actually, it seemed to me that your marriage was in fine shape. Im so excited for your tenure representing poetry and representing all of us, and Im excited that you have so many more years of aging and writing and getting wiser ahead, and we got to be here at this early stage. you look back and beg and snowshoes, maple and seeds, samara and shoot, And one of them this is also on The Hurting Kind is Lover, which is page 77. And so I have. And I was feeling very isolated. Yeah, because its made with words, but its also sensory and its bodily. Tippett: It also says something about this time. To love harder? Dacher Keltner and his Greater Good Science Center at Berkeley have been pivotal in this emergence. My mother says, Oh yeah, you say that now.. And when people describe you as a poet, theyll talk about things about intimacy and emotional sincerity and your observations of the natural world. All right. Yeah, Ive got a lot of feelings moving through me. And that there was this break when we moved from pictographic language, which is characters which directly refer to the things spoken, and when we moved to the phonetic alphabet. Patel is a Deseret contributor. And the last voice that you hear singing at the end of our show is Cameron Kinghorn. They bring us together with others, again and again. We hold each other. For me, I have pain, so Ive moved through the body in pain. strong and between sleep, Yet it is a deep truth in life as in science that each of us is shaped as much by the quality of the questions we are asking as by the answers we have it in us to give. And I think Id just like to end with a few more poems. Interesting. "On Being," a weekly interview show about the mysteries of human existence, hosted by Krista Tippett, airs on nearly 400 public radio stations, with more than half a million weekly listeners . We want to rise to what is beautiful and life-giving. And then there are times in a life, and in the life of the world, where only a poem perhaps in the form of the lyrics of a song, or a half sentence we ourselves write down can touch the mystery of ourselves, and the . And I want you to read it. Thats such a wonderful question. Find them at, Dedicated to reconnecting ecology, culture, and spirituality. Krista Tippett, Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and Art of Living. Our conversations create openings. Limn: Kind of true. And then you can also be like, Im a little anxious about this thing thats happening next week. Or all of these things, it makes room for all of those things. when it flickers, when it folds up so perfectly I am too used to nostalgia now, a sweet escape. This is not a problem. So my interest, when I get into conversation with a poet, is not to talk about poetry, but to delve into what this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being fully human this adventure were all on that is by turns treacherous and heartbreaking and revelatory and wondrous. So its this weird moment of being aware of it and then also letting it go at the same time. So anyway, I got The Hurting Kind, the galley in the mail from Milkweed. And isnt it strange that breathing is something that we have to get better at? Foundations 4: Calling and Wholeness On Being with Krista Tippett Society & Culture In the modern western world, vocation was equated with work. I cannot reverse it, the record, chaotic track. And I think about that all the time. We have been in the sun. We offer it here as an audio experience, and we think you will enjoy being in the room retroactively. Okay. I was like, Oh. Then I came downstairs and I was like, Lucas, Im never going to get to be Poet Laureate.. Suppose its easy to slip Limn: Not the Saddest Thing in the World, All day I feel some itchiness around Yeah. red glare and then there are the bombs. Tippett: Something I remember reading is that you grew up in an English-speaking household, but your paternal grandfather spoke Spanish and that you just loved to listen to him. letter on the dresser, enough of the longing and Tippett: I dont expect you to have the page number memorized. has lost everything, when its not a weapon, when it flickers, when it folds up so perfectly, you can keep it until its needed, until you can, love it again, until the song in your mouth feels, like sustenance, a song where the notes are sung. the world walking in, ready to be ravaged, open for business. And what of the stanzas Enough of osseous and chickadee and sunflower And then what happened was the list that was in my head of poems I wasnt going to write became this poem. And I feel like theres a level of mystery thats allowed in the poem that feels like, Okay, I can maybe read this into it, I can put myself into it, and it becomes sort of its own thing. If you live, It is still the river. until every part of it is run through with And I knew immediately that it was a love poem and a loss poem. That its not my neighborhood, and they look beautiful. But when we talk about the limitations of language in general, I find language is so strange. And I wonder if you think about your teenage self, who fell in love with poetry. I think coming back to this idea that poetry is as embodied as it is linguistic. We are located on Dakota land. What. to the field, something to get through before And theyre like, Oh, I didnt know that was a thing.. 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